The race of AI, the future of AGI, and the inside story of OpenAI.
Greg Brockman is co-founder and president of OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT and GPT-5. He was the first engineer at Stripe before leaving in 2015 to help start OpenAI.
In this rare conversation, Greg delves into the moments that built—and nearly ruined—the world’s largest artificial intelligence company.
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Greg explains how the original Napa site produced the three-step technical plan that OpenAI has followed for a decade and the real reason OpenAI had to abandon its purely non-profit structure. Then he looks back at the 72 hours after Sam Altman was fired: where he was when he got the call from the board, why he resigned on the same day, how the backup company “Phoenix” was designed in Sam’s house the next morning, and the moment Ilya Sutskever’s tweet changed everything.
From there, the conversation moves on: If we’re in a global AI race, how much of OpenAI’s own code is now written by AI (“it’s hard to know what percentage is No“), why OpenAI stopped showing traces of reasoning, what a computing-restricted world means for who gets access to AGI, and Greg’s answer to the question everyone is really asking: What about your work?
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